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SudoRandón



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 4:17 am    Post subject: Non-combo hotkeys Reply with quote

When setting hotkeys for switching desktops, AltDesk prevents the use of single keys like F9, and instead requires something like "Alt-F9". I am under the impression this is an artifically imposed limitation, because competing programs allow such keys. Is there a chance this ability could be added?

Beyond this limitation, AltDesk is by far the most effective, stable virtual desktop software I have found.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is an artificial limitation made in order to avoid some possible conflicts with the third-party applications.
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SudoRandón



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand, but considering AltDesk is a tool targeted towards power-users, would it not make sense to allow users to take that potential risk for the sake of improved convenience?

If you are concerned about potentially user-unfriendly effects, could you at least allow the program to function correctly when a user changes the Mod field to zero in the altdesk.ini. That way it is pretty clear that it is "at your own risk," and users won't accidentally cause problems when configuring it normally.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We'll Think about this Wink

Edit: for now you might try setting a Win+Fx hotkey for switching and then rebind (any third-party software) Fx to perform Win+Fx action. Not the best solution, but it should work.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please do consider this, SacRat. I know I would love to have this feature available if nothing else. Wink

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SacRat



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There're lots of potential problems.

And I'll be the first person voting against making this a default feature. Here's why:

F1-F5 keys are commonly used in Windows (Explorer), while many use file managers utilizing the whole row of Fx keys. Guess what this lead to.

So, this would probably be done as an "unclear feature" just like ones I've described in my blog Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can deal with an "unclear feature". Wink

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Goldy



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, what about media keys? my keyboard has dedicated keys for numerous things, and I want to bind the mail button to thunderbird.. but cant (works if i use alt, or ctrl and bind)

there must be a file i can hack to change the bindings?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it was customizable in Explorer, you probably had software to do it. Run that software.

If it's a designated media key, then set the default program for that application type. So for mail, set Thunderbird as your default email client.


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Goldy



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Veratil wrote:
If it was customizable in Explorer, you probably had software to do it. Run that software.

If it's a designated media key, then set the default program for that application type. So for mail, set Thunderbird as your default email client.


im not going to run an extra process when I know aston can do it....

so anyone knw how i can force aston to do it?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aston can't do it. That's what we've been trying to say. Confused If you had to run another process in Explorer, then you have to run another process in Aston.

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Goldy



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Veratil wrote:
Aston can't do it. That's what we've been trying to say. Confused If you had to run another process in Explorer, then you have to run another process in Aston.


but im saying aston can do it.

if i use the media keys in combination with another key, it works... there must be a file the hotkeys are savedf to that i can manual edit, that what i am asking, anyone know what file?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No no, we mean Aston can't do it because Aston doesn't allow single-key hotkeys. Confused

I will look at it though, maybe I can see something that'll let it work.


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Goldy



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Veratil wrote:
No no, we mean Aston can't do it because Aston doesn't allow single-key hotkeys. Confused

I will look at it though, maybe I can see something that'll let it work.


figured it out myself, if you open the aston.~c file in notepad, and add lines similar to this under the [Hotkeys] header
*
R="E:\Program Files\Mozilla Thunderbird\thunderbird.exe"
K=0xB4
M=1
*

where r is the path of the program, K is the hotkey (0xB4 is what comes up in the hotkey setting thingy)
and m is, umm, i dunno, prolly like mode, i guess 0 or 2 may load the program minimsed....

have fun Smile

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Veratil



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha, you really have to hack it to get it to work. I got my Mail button opening Notepad now. Laughing

OK, this is what you'll have to do.

1) Disable Multimedia keyboard support for Aston.
2) Make a hotkey for your program you want.
3) Go to your Aston folder (C:\Program Files\Aston) and open aston.rc
4) Locate the [Hotkeys] section
5) Find the hotkey you just added (most likely at the end of the list)
6) Completely delete the line M=whatever
7) Save the file
8] Recycle Aston (right-click the > in the system tray and select recycle)
9) Try your key.

THIS WILL ONLY WORK IF YOU DISABLE MULTIMEDIA KEYBOARD SUPPORT
If you want any of your other keys doing what they're suppose to, then there is NO way.


So I do have to apologize to you Goldy, it is possible. *bow*


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