Longhorn, The TCPA, and Palladium

~mycroes · Joined: 11 Jan 2003 Posts: 1659 Location: Netherlands

When thinking about this I really think about the Mad Max trilogy, especially the first movie. All V8's are gone, expect for a few. For those who haven't seen this movie, go see it! Laughing

It's in the future and all nice V8's are gone, except for one. I'll be the one with the last V8 concerning OSes and hardware, don't expect me to fall for this Microshit (and Intelshit to Wink

)
Greetings,

Michael

P.s. And I will help as many people as possible to hack around all new security tricks etc.

The_PC_Mechanic · Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 9:33 pm Post subject:

Maybe I'm being a little optimistic here, but I'm placing my bets on the fact that not all hardware manufacturers are going to want to be tarred with this brush. What this will mean in the long term is anyones guess, but what I'm pretty certain of is that the never ending spiral of OS upgrades, and increasing monopoly by MS is going to take a dramatic shift in the coming few years.

Regards,

~mycroes · Joined: 11 Jan 2003 Posts: 1659 Location: Netherlands

This is not an optimistic view, this is the right view... More and more home users are using Linux, some of them in combination with Windows to play with it, but people start to notice that most things they can do under Windows can be done under Linux too, and sometimes with more efficiency...
My favourite computer magazine is dedicating a few pages in the next mag about home users and Linux (what distro and what apps they should use etc etc), and that says a lot... About the hardware being bound to one OS: think about HP, nvidia and loads more of those manufacturers that support Linux, do you think they will make hardware that's only to be used with Microshit? The manufacturers that support Linux mostly are the big ones, so I'm not amazed if palladium will never come to the public...
Greetings,

Michael

drumbo · Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 4:27 am Post subject:

hahahahahaha Laughing

i find this all quite comedic really.
here we are on the ASTON forums talking about versions of windows that havt come out yet (and thats fair enough) but then people are saying that unix systems own. mircroshit is well, not in their fame of nicees.
*coughASTONcough*
the shell of windows knowen as "Explorer" as generally what causes crashes. often most "crashes" can be fixed by going ctrl+alt+delete and then clicking end task with explorer selected. then running explorer. this is really annoying. so far with my use of aston i have not had any crashes, and a great speed increase.
i know im probably sounding like a bit of a rectum gap, but i have never really had any problems with XP. i dont get anyupdates for it and my computer is crappy in the first place, well below what people usually like to have to run XP. (intell celron 700 with 125MG SDRAM, geForce4MX420, no sound card (nooooooooooooooo)(thats soon to be fixed though)) i find that XP runs bloody well on my little humma - much better than many new computers runing. i use my computer for games (such as Warcraft 3 at its highest ghraphics settings) web useage (as you can tell) and graphics (2D such as photoshop and 3D such as lightwave) and of corse music!! Smile

(i know i said i dont have a sound card, and in a way i dont. when i want to lisen to music i will plug in my sound blaster extergy external USB sound card. this is extreemly procesor raping though, so i use it only for music. its amazing sounding thouh Wink

the way i see it, any OS (well apart from ME) can be made to run well when the proper care is taken of your computer, both soft and hard, and when the user knows how to use it. i beleave that people who would be concerned about longhorns new shit and have reason to worry about it (due to so called "illegal" soft-stuffs such as MP3's and pirated softweare) should be hung. i beleave that when longhorn comes, there will be a way to stops its communisum. weather or not it will be easy i do not know. but, there will be a way. the easiest solution to longhorns spying i say is....
just dont buy (or obtain) it!
solved Very Happy

~mycroes · Joined: 11 Jan 2003 Posts: 1659 Location: Netherlands

You can make any OS stable (even windows me) but it has its price... Let's say you want to use the GIMP, originally made for Linux but ported to Windows. It generates errors once in a while (on Windows only), but who cares if your OS keeps running... You shouldn't try that on 95, 98 or ME, the only systems I trust to handle Ctrl Alt Del well are the NT based systems (NT, 2000, XP). And just like you said, there's always the issue of Explorer... In my old days I learned that you shouldn't try to be faster than your pc. I was in that time (because my pc was a 486 with 100 mHz and only 16 MB RAM), and I noticied that if you just waited for Windows to let everything happen that needs to be done all runs smoothly... The first thing my dad does is clicking the start menu, when Windows is still loading... And then it doesn't work and he clicks it again, and clicks some icons... And after half a minute all kind of menus and windows show up... And that's what generates errors too... Windows doesn't know what to do anymore so it does all kind of things or nothing...
Another issue is running programs. My dad has about 10 to 20 programs running in the systray, I can't make clear to him that memery usage is higher than needed, so his pc will be slow... And of course these programs cause instability too, even Norton System doctor what should prevents instability is one of the common reasons that pc hangs again...
Just wanted to say that's possible to get every system stable, but you can get it unstable easier...
Greetings,

Michael

drumbo · Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 4:11 am Post subject:

i completly agree with your coment about the win95/98/Me ctrl+alt+delete. i had qickley forgotten about that, man i wish they had just made it proper!

The_PC_Mechanic · Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 4:39 am Post subject:

I just wanted to annotate that for some reason, either by my error, or a failing in the forum code, I was not able to separate all of the TCPA related comments from the thread regarding XP - moreover, some XP related comments came with the TCPA stuff. As I have no way of merging the errant threads, could we keep the XP stuff to the other thread, and the TCPA etc stuff here? It would be a lot less confusing.

Regards,

~mycroes · Joined: 11 Jan 2003 Posts: 1659 Location: Netherlands

I don't really care, as for me (and probably most other forum members) post where they think their post could be usefull... although XP has nothing to do with TCPA, new m$ OSes probably will be based on XP, so it all has to do with eachother in a way...
Greetings,

Michael

drumbo · Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 12:35 am Post subject:

*agrees with mycroes*

The_PC_Mechanic · Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 4:26 am Post subject:

Hi Mike (and everyone else)!
The Astonshell forum has never had a formal rule about cross posting, but in general, it is considered to be "bad netiquette" to do so. This is why I made my posting - simply to apologise for my error. We appreciate that sometimes issues become pertinent in a number of places, and because of that, we have tried to take a casual approach to it.

In the past (and well before your time here) excessive cross postings were simply deleted, "no questions asked", but things have been pretty good as of late. However, as you bring the point up, it seems like a good time to state a couple of guidelines (which I may or may not add to the forum guidelines - depending on the frequency of occurrence).

These are:
- Crossposting is discouraged - those cross posting excessively will find their "offending" posts removed.
- Thread hijacking is likewise discouraged. Constructive redirection will be split to a new topic. Negative redirection will be removed.
- Postings in the "Other" section of the forum may take whatever direction they take. The above guidelines are recommended.

I hope this clarifies things before new poeple get the idea that this is an anything goes forum.

Oh, and one more thing, there ARE elements of TCPA compliance already in XP, with more being bolted on via updates. This is a LIVE issue, and you do well to keep on top of it.

All the best!

~mycroes · Joined: 11 Jan 2003 Posts: 1659 Location: Netherlands

I didn't say I'm pro crossposting Wink

. You're right with what you said, but I meant that if it gets posted at the wrong place people will still react on it... I know it's worng, and that the forum could get messy because of that, but it also means that the forum members help, whatever the question is.
Now I've got a question too... Could you define thread highjacking a bit more... I don't get the idea...
greetings,

Michael

The_PC_Mechanic · Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 5:05 pm Post subject:

Hi Mike,
One thing about cross posting before I answer your thing about thread Hijacking.

The best way to prevent x-posting is to make your response in the appropriate (non-x-posted) thread, and then go the x-posting thread and say something like "please see http://..... for my response". That way you are able to redirect the flow to the appropriate places.

Now, "Thread Hijacking" - we really don't see it here, but what it is is when somebody takes an existing thread and moves it seriously off-topic. Effectively, taking the thread away from the original poster and his or her topic. I don't think this is a big deal in the "Other" section, but it can be very detrimental in main area threads. If this happens naturally, it's not normally a bid deal, and I just split the new topic into a separate post (If I can get it right Laughing

).

I hope this clarifies this for everybody.
Regards,

~mycroes · Joined: 11 Jan 2003 Posts: 1659 Location: Netherlands

Well I think I already hijacked some threads then Razz

. I'll try to hijack a bit less... I know that what I do is what you mean with naturally thread hijacking Wink

thanks for making clear to me what thread hijacking is PC_Mechanic.
Greetings,

Michael

drumbo · Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 9:38 am Post subject:

god hijacking is annoying if you started the topic, but for anyone else, its normally pretty normal.

this thead has been hijacked i would say too, what happened to longhorn?...

The_PC_Mechanic · Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 1:34 pm Post subject:

That's why it's in "other" - what can be a natural progression in the "other" section can be downright confusing in the main sections.